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| {{central|text=all talk subpages of [[Template talk:Section link]] and [[Module talk:Section link]] redirect here.}} | | -- This module implements {{section link}}. |
| {{copied|from1=Template:Section_link|from_oldid1=760447925|to1=:incubator:Template:Wp/nod/sectionlink|to_diff1=4320681
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| ==Bugs== | | local checkType = require('libraryUtil').checkType |
| <code><nowiki>{{see section||Soviet Union|Armenian SSR (Armenia)|label2=Armenian SSR}}</nowiki></code> displays {{see section||Soviet Union|Armenian SSR (Armenia)|label2=Armenian SSR}}. There are at least two bugs here. The multiple "§§" is one, and the lack of functionality for {{para|label2}} is another. I'd appreciate if this could be fixed for use at [[World War II by country]]. Thanks! <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 20:21, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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| :Do we agree that the output '''should''' be § [[Template talk:Section link#Soviet%20Union|Soviet Union]] and § [[Template talk:Section link#Armenian%20SSR%20(Armenia)|Armenian SSR (Armenia)]]? – i.e. with a single section sign per link — [[User:GhostInTheMachine|GhostInTheMachine]] <sup>[[User talk:GhostInTheMachine|talk to me]]</sup> 11:26, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
| | local p = {} |
| ::I believe we do. The disambiguation should be fixed by {{para|label2}}, as well. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 14:21, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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| ==Add a wikilink to the § symbol== | | local function makeSectionLink(page, section, display) |
| is there anyway a wikilink could be added to the § symbol pointing to [[Section_sign]]. A lot of people don't know what that symbol means, myself included until very recently. [[User:Jake-jakubowski|<span style="color:#146c43;">Jake Jakubowski</span>]] [[User talk:Jake-jakubowski|<span style="color:#146c43;">(Talk)</span>]] 05:13, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
| | display = display or section |
| | page = page or '' |
| | -- MediaWiki doesn't allow these in 'page', so only need to do for 'section' |
| | if type(section) == 'string' then |
| | section = string.gsub(section, "{", "{") |
| | section = string.gsub(section, "}", "}") |
| | end |
| | return string.format('[[%s#%s|%s]]', page, section, display) |
| | end |
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| :A wikilink wouldn't be appropriate I don't think, but we could maybe do hover text, like this: {{tqbm|{{tlx|tooltip|§|Section}}}} which renders as: {{tqbm|{{tooltip|§|Section}}}} However, this isn't accessible on mobile and I'm not sure about screen readers. — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 14:26, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
| | local function normalizeTitle(title) |
| | title = mw.ustring.gsub(mw.ustring.gsub(title, "'", ""), '"', '') |
| | title = mw.ustring.gsub(title, "%b<>", "") |
| | return mw.title.new(title).prefixedText |
| | end |
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| :A current ongoing debate at {{section link|Talk:Saint Valentine's Day Massacre|See also - List of organized crime killings in Illinois}} suggests to me that there would be merit in a tool tip for the § symbol. Currently the text displayed by {{tl|section link}} appears as a single link, but it might be feasible to have two or three links:
| | function p._main(page, sections, options, title) |
| :# to the article
| | -- Validate input. |
| :# to [[§]]
| | checkType('_main', 1, page, 'string', true) |
| :# to the section
| | checkType('_main', 3, options, 'table', true) |
| :Eg: [[Albert Einstein]] [[Section mark|§]] [[Albert Einstein#Scientific career|Scientific career]]
| | if sections == nil then |
| :(Perhaps with a more explanatory tool tip than "section mark", if possible.)
| | sections = {} |
| :This is contrary to [[WP:SEAOFBLUE]], but might be justified in contexts where the template is used. (Also see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Saint_Valentine%27s_Day_Massacre#c-Mitch_Ames-20250906035200-See_also_-_List_of_organized_crime_killings_in_Illinois] for a comment on "where the template should be used".) Removing the first link (to the article, [[Albert Einstein]]) would reduce the impact of SEAOFBLUE. [[User:Mitch Ames|Mitch Ames]] ([[User talk:Mitch Ames|talk]]) 04:53, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
| | elseif type(sections) == 'string' then |
| | sections = {sections} |
| | elseif type(sections) ~= 'table' then |
| | error(string.format( |
| | "type error in argument #2 to '_main' " .. |
| | "(string, table or nil expected, got %s)", |
| | type(sections) |
| | ), 2) |
| | end |
| | options = options or {} |
| | title = title or mw.title.getCurrentTitle() |
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| ==Bug: any link without a section adds #Notes==
| | -- Deal with blank page names elegantly |
| None of the following have "Notes" as a template parameter. It must be coming from [[Module:Section link]]
| | if page and not page:find('%S') then |
| | page = nil |
| | options.nopage = true |
| | end |
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| * {{slink|Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Adoring nanny/Essays/Lab Leak Likely (2nd nomination)}}
| | -- Make the link(s). |
| * {{slink|Wikipedia:Miscellany}}
| | local isShowingPage = not options.nopage |
| * {{slink|Miscellany}}
| | if #sections <= 1 then |
| | local linkPage = page or '' |
| | if options.permalink then -- when oldid provided |
| | linkPage = 'Special:Permalink/' .. options.permalink; -- make Special:Permalink/oldid wikilink |
| | end |
| | local section = sections[1]; -- sections[1] must have a value |
| | local display = '§ ' .. section |
| | if isShowingPage then |
| | page = page or title.prefixedText |
| | if options.display and options.display ~= '' then |
| | if normalizeTitle(options.display) == normalizeTitle(page) then |
| | display = options.display .. ' ' .. display |
| | else |
| | error(string.format( |
| | 'Display title "%s" was ignored since it is ' .. |
| | "not equivalent to the page's actual title", |
| | options.display |
| | ), 0) |
| | end |
| | else |
| | display = page .. ' ' .. display |
| | end |
| | end |
| | return makeSectionLink(linkPage, section, display) |
| | else |
| | -- Multiple sections. First, make a list of the links to display. |
| | local ret = {} |
| | for i, section in ipairs(sections) do |
| | ret[i] = makeSectionLink(page, section) |
| | end |
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| I played around with fixing this in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Section_link/sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1163701314 this edit], but it still leaves an errant " § " when testing it in [[Template:Section link/sandbox|the sandbox]]. Anyone want to take this to the finish line and submit a {{t|TPER}}? Thanks. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 04:47, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
| | -- Assemble the list of links into a string with mw.text.listToText. |
| :If the purpose of the {{tq|module [is to create] links to sections, nicely formatted with the "§" symbol instead of the default "#"}}, is there ever a legitimate reason for it to make up a section name that may or may not exist in the target article? Is there ever a legitimate reason to omit the section name from a template named 'section link'? I don't know of any such reasons so, for me, I would have the module emit a {{color|#d33|section name missing}} (or some such) error message (perhaps with an accompanying hidden category).
| | -- We use the default separator for mw.text.listToText, but a custom |
| :—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 13:21, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
| | -- conjunction. There is also a special case conjunction if we only |
| ::That sounds good to me. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 09:42, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
| | -- have two links. |
| :Using the sandbox and the example from the OP:
| | local conjunction |
| ::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{Section link/sandbox|Miscellany}}</syntaxhighlight> → {{Section link/sandbox|Miscellany}}
| | if #sections == 2 then |
| :—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 15:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
| | conjunction = '​ and ' |
| | else |
| | conjunction = ', and ' |
| | end |
| | ret = mw.text.listToText(ret, nil, conjunction) |
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| ==Permalink option==
| | -- Add the intro text. |
| This template could be enhanced by adding an optional parameter for linking to a permanent revision of the section on the page. <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 00:25, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
| | local intro = '§§ ' |
| | if isShowingPage then |
| | intro = (page or title.prefixedText) .. ' ' .. intro |
| | end |
| | ret = intro .. ret |
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| :@[[User:Novem Linguae|Novem Linguae]] and @[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]], I see you've both been active in editing this template recently. Since I don't know how to code Lua, wondering if you might be interested in helping with this?
| | return ret |
| :To flesh out the proposal a bit, I envision a new {{para|permalink}} parameter that would be used to provide a revision number, and if so provided the link would go to that revision. <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 02:34, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
| | end |
| :
| | end |
| :Using the sandbox: links to the first post in this discussion:
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| ::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">[[Special:Permalink/1214107719#Permalink option]]</syntaxhighlight> → [[Special:Permalink/1214107719#Permalink option]]
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| ::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{section link/sandbox|Template talk:Section link|Permalink option|permalink=1214107719}}</syntaxhighlight> → {{section link/sandbox|Template talk:Section link|Permalink option|permalink=1214107719}}
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| :Only supported for uses with one section parameter; with multiple section parameters {{para|permalink}} is ignored.
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| :—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 15:52, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Looks good to me! Thanks for coding; I'd say feel free to implement. <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 05:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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| :::Done. I leave it to you to update the documentation.
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| :::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 14:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Wikipiping==
| | function p.main(frame) |
| I rune into the necessity for wikipiping, e.g., [[Moscow|the capital of Russia]] (hypothetical example). Can it be implemented as a parameter, e.g., <nowiki>{{section link|Stars in fiction|Neutron stars|pipe=life on the surface of neutron stars}}</nowiki>- [[user:Altenmann|Altenmann]] [[user talk:Altenmann|>talk]] 18:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
| | local yesno = require('Module:Yesno') |
| :Most often, hypothetical examples are meaningless. Is your other example a real-life example, or just another hypothetical? | | local args = require('Module:Arguments').getArgs(frame, { |
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| | wrappers = 'Template:Section link', |
| :As currently written, this template and its module do not support piping. Likely, to do so would seem to conflict with the purpose of this template which is to make a pretty rendering of an unpretty wikilink where all parts of the wikilink are visible to the reader:
| | valueFunc = function (key, value) |
| ::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">[[Stars in fiction#Neutron stars]]</syntaxhighlight> → [[Stars in fiction#Neutron stars]]
| | value = value:match('^%s*(.-)%s*$') -- Trim whitespace |
| ::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{slink|Stars in fiction|Neutron stars}}</syntaxhighlight> → {{slink|Stars in fiction|Neutron stars}}
| | -- Allow blank first parameters, as the wikitext template does this. |
| :If you want a piped link, make a piped link:
| | if value ~= '' or key == 1 then |
| ::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">[[Stars in fiction#Neutron stars|life on the surface of neutron stars]]</syntaxhighlight> → [[Stars in fiction#Neutron stars|life on the surface of neutron stars]]
| | return value |
| :But, such links might run afoul of [[WP:EASTEREGG]].
| | end |
| :—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 19:42, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
| | end |
| ::It is noit hypothetiical, and that's exactly what did in [[Life origination beyond planets]] three times, see the text "[[Aphotic zone#Life in the aphotic zone|life with no sunlight]]" there and two more downtext. After second thought I nolonger see the advantage of using sectionlink template in such cases. Yes, I am aware of rotten Easter eggs, and I always fix them when I see them. --[[user:Altenmann|Altenmann]] [[user talk:Altenmann|>talk]] 23:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC) | | }) |
| :::I sometimes use the template to link to related sections in the same article. This means that I want to flag to readers they're staying in the same article (with the section symbol), and need to make sure the text fits within the sentence, often requiring piping. [[User:Femke|—Femke 🐦]] ([[User talk:Femke|talk]]) 07:32, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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| ==Template-protected edit request on 17 April 2025==
| | for k, v in pairs(args) do -- replace underscores in the positional parameter values |
| {{edit template-protected|Template:Section link|answered=yes}}
| | if 'number' == type(k) then |
| Is it possible to add an example usage in the template itself? I'm not super familiar with <syntaxhighlight lang=wikitext inline>{{#invoke}}</syntaxhighlight>, but I know in other templates you can use {{tag|noinclude|o}}, like <syntaxhighlight lang=wikitext>{{slink|{{{article|}}}<noinclude>Example article</noinclude>|{{{section|}}}<noinclude>Example section</noinclude>}}</syntaxhighlight> — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 14:20, 17 April 2025 (UTC) '''edited 17:27, 10 May'''
| | if not yesno (args['keep-underscores']) then -- unless |keep-underscores=yes |
| : {{not done}} There are plenty of example on the doc page, and I don't see a good reason to deviate from the default behavior of the template displaying itself with no parameters. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 20:13, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
| | args[k] = mw.uri.decode (v, 'WIKI'); -- percent-decode; replace underscores with space characters |
| ::{{tqbm|I don't see a good reason to deviate from the default behavior of the template displaying itself with no parameters.}}
| | else |
| ::People first learning about the template would be better served seeing an example of the template's intended usage rather than an error stemming from unintended usage. — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 17:24, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
| | args[k] = mw.uri.decode (v, 'PATH'); -- percent-decode; retain underscores |
| :::Cf. {{tlx|Nothanks-web}} which noincludes "Page" — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 17:58, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
| | end |
| | end |
| | end |
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| =={Section link} suggests a nicer default wikilink behavior== | | -- Sort the arguments. |
| {{edit template-protected|Template:Section link|answered=yes}}
| | local page |
| Changes to this template+module cannot accomplish this, but: Does the default wikilink ''really'' have to make ugly links like this?
| | local sections, options = {}, {} |
| :<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>[[Albert Einstein#Scientific career]]</syntaxhighlight> → [[Albert Einstein#Scientific career]]
| | for k, v in pairs(args) do |
| | if k == 1 then |
| | -- Doing this in the loop because of a bug in [[Module:Arguments]] |
| | -- when using pairs with deleted arguments. |
| | page = mw.text.decode(v, true) |
| | elseif type(k) == 'number' then |
| | sections[k] = v |
| | else |
| | options[k] = v |
| | end |
| | end |
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| ... when it could instead make nicely formatted links like this template+module does? | | options.nopage = yesno (options.nopage); -- make boolean |
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| | -- Extract section from page, if present |
| | if page then |
| | local p, s = page:match('^(.-)#(.*)$') |
| | if p then page, sections[1] = p, s end |
| | end |
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| :<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{section link|Albert Einstein#Scientific career}}</syntaxhighlight> → {{section link|Albert Einstein#Scientific career}}
| | -- Compress the sections array. |
| | local function compressArray(t) |
| | local nums, ret = {}, {} |
| | for num in pairs(t) do |
| | nums[#nums + 1] = num |
| | end |
| | table.sort(nums) |
| | for i, num in ipairs(nums) do |
| | ret[i] = t[num] |
| | end |
| | return ret |
| | end |
| | sections = compressArray(sections) |
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| [[Help:Cheatsheet]] lists both ways to "Link to a section". | | if not sections[1] then -- empty section parameter makes {{Section link}} meaningless |
| | return ('<span style="color:#d33"><span style="font-family:monospace">{{[[Template:Section link|Section link]]}}</span>: required section parameter(s) missing</span>'); -- emit error message and abandon |
| | end |
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| I can't imagine where the link with the {{blue|Article title § Section title}} section-link format would NOT suit better than the {{blue|Article title#Section title}} format (though one might contemplate alternative glyphs and alternative spacings).-[[User:A876|A876]] ([[User talk:A876|talk]]) 23:18, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
| | return p._main(page, sections, options) |
| :{{not done}} – no '''complete and specific description''' of the request. Generally such requests are in the form: change X to Y.
| | end |
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| :Not clear what you mean by {{tq|Changes to this template+module cannot accomplish this}}. Accomplish what, specifically?
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| :—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 23:31, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
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| ::I regret making such a vague comment in this context. I withdraw it embarrassed.
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| ::(I would delete this whole section<!--("{Section link} suggests a nicer default wikilink behavior")-->. If you would too, please do so.) (A new attempt follows.) -[[User:A876|A876]] ([[User talk:A876|talk]]) 18:09, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
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| ==Make <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> (wikilink) do the same as {section link|}!==
| | return p |
| {{edit template-protected|Template:Section link|answered=yes}}
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| Pre-apologies:
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| * I know I'm [mis]using {edit template-protected} to suggest changes to ''some other'' template. I do not request any edit here; I only hope for an opinion and maybe an idea of where to [re]post.
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| * I have held this idea for a while, and sadly I must let it out. Now.
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| * I ''would'' comment in the place where the code for <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>[[ ]]</syntaxhighlight> is maintained, but <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>[[ ]]</syntaxhighlight> is not a template. I don't know where to look. It might be a fundamental non-template hard-coded in [[MediaWiki]]. For lack of a better immediate place, I <s>boldly</s> rudely cram it in here to introduce it.
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| '''This template-and-module ({section link|})''' makes "nice" section links, like this:
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| :<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{section link|Albert Einstein#Wormholes}}</syntaxhighlight> → {{section link|Albert Einstein#Wormholes}}
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| '''The standard [[ ]] (wikilink)''' makes the same target into a ugly (or less-nice) section link, like this:
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| :<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>[[Albert Einstein#Wormholes]]</syntaxhighlight> → [[Albert Einstein#Wormholes]]
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| [[Help:Cheatsheet]] lists both ways to add a "Link to a section". If someone wants a "nice" link, they have to code for this template instead of using the default wikilink syntax.
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| Maybe it's time for '''[[ ]] (wikilink)''' to do the same thing (in the above case) that '''{section link|}''' does! Because:
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| * Editors who want to add a "nice" link-to-a-section (without pipe) won't have to add the code for his template.
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| * Every existing link-to-a-section (without pipe) would immediately become "nice".
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| * I cannot imagine where a link like {{blue|Article § Section}} would NOT suit better than a link like {{blue|Article#Section}} (though one might contemplate using an alternate glyph and/or different spacing). Wouldn't ''everyone'' prefer it? -[[User:A876|A876]] ([[User talk:A876|talk]]) 18:09, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
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| :{{not done}}.
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| :The <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">[[ ]]</syntaxhighlight> markup is a MediaWiki primitive. If you think that MediaWiki should render a formatted unpiped section link in a way that is different from the way that unpiped section links are currently rendered, you will need to take that up with MediaWiki. I suppose that the place to do that might be at [[WP:PHAB|phabricator]]. Making that suggestion here will surely result in disappointment.
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| :—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 18:33, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
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| == Template-protected edit request on 2 September 2025: Don't render on the template page if it's going to show an error ==
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| {{edit template-protected|Template:Section link|answered=yes}}
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| Currently the template page shows:
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| {{tqb|1=<span style="color:#d33"><span style="font-family:monospace"><nowiki>{{Section link}}</nowiki></span>: required section parameter(s) missing</span>}}
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| This isn't a good example, so it would be better to just remove it using {{tag|includeonly}}, like {{tl|Multi-section link}} does.
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| [[Special:diff/1309175741|I put this change on the sandbox.]]
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| Previously, [[#Template-protected edit request on 17 April 2025|I requested to add a good example, which was declined]].
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| — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 18:38, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
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| : {{re|W.andrea}} {{done}}. [[User:Est. 2021|Est. 2021]] ([[User talk:Est. 2021|talk]] <b>·</b> [[User:Est. 2021/contribs|contribs]]) 10:06, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
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| == Sections links in "See also" ==
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| Editors are invited to comment at {{section link|Talk:Saint Valentine's Day Massacre|See also - List of organized crime killings in Illinois}} on the relative merits of {{tl|section link}} vs piped links in the "See also" section of an article. [[User:Mitch Ames|Mitch Ames]] ([[User talk:Mitch Ames|talk]]) 11:42, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
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| == Custom conjunction word option ==
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| {{edit template-protected|Module:Section link|answered=y}}
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| I'd like a {{para|conjunction}} parameter, primarily for lists with the word "or". I have tested at the module sandbox with {{diff|Module:Section link/sandbox|prev|1315650082|this edit}}, which works as expected as can be seen in "Case 18: custom conjunction word" at {{section link|Template:Section link/testcases|Multiple sections}}. This permits constructions like {{xt|Article §§ Section 1 or Section 2}}. <span title="Signature of Dan Leonard">[[User:Dan Leonard|Dan Leonard]] ([[User talk:Dan Leonard|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Leonard|contribs]])</span> 21:49, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
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| :Not addressing the issue directly but I am curious: why this code:
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| ::<syntaxhighlight lang="lua" inline="1">conjunction = '​ and '</syntaxhighlight> – the original
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| ::<syntaxhighlight lang="lua" inline="1">conjunction_string = '​ ' .. conjunction_word .. ' '</syntaxhighlight> – the proposal
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| :What purpose does <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">​</syntaxhighlight> ([[Zero-width space]]) serve? Lines will break at the immediately adjacent 'space' character (<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1"> </syntaxhighlight>) so why do we need the zero-width space?
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| :—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 22:24, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
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| ::I can't see a good reason for this. It seems to have existed since the {{oldid|Module:Section link|637287647|first version of the module}}, so maybe [[User:Mr. Stradivarius|Mr. Stradivarius]] might remember? {{oldid|Template:Section link|452846230|The original template version}} used regular spaces ({{diff|Template:Section link|prev|622853255|and briefly, <syntaxhighlight inline lang="wikitext"> </syntaxhighlight>}}) after the section signs, which might have had odd breaking behavior that the zero-width space was working around. Probably unnecessary though. <span title="Signature of Dan Leonard">[[User:Dan Leonard|Dan Leonard]] ([[User talk:Dan Leonard|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Leonard|contribs]])</span> 23:06, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
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| :::{{Ping|Trappist the monk}} I {{diff|Module:Section link/sandbox|prev|1315761600|removed}} the zero-width space from the sandbox and see no difference in the line break behavior at [[Template:Section link/testcases|the testcases page]], running Chromium version 141.0.7390.55. <span title="Signature of Dan Leonard">[[User:Dan Leonard|Dan Leonard]] ([[User talk:Dan Leonard|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dan Leonard|contribs]])</span> 14:09, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
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| :::{{ping|Dan Leonard|Trappist the monk}} The <code>&#8203;</code> was in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Section_link&action=edit&oldid=631281028 version of the template] that I converted. It was added by [[User:Czarkoff]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ASection_link&diff=next&oldid=587933224 here]. — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]</sup> 14:27, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
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| :::<small>Pinging [[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] again because I messed up the first one. — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]</sup> 14:31, 8 October 2025 (UTC)</small>
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| {{not done for now}}—Feel free to reactivate when discussion is resolved. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 17:18, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
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